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Finance Lessons from Flipping Vegas

“There are only the pursued, the pursuing, the busy and the tired.” ― F. Scott Fitzgerald, The Great Gatsby

For many people out there I am sure you have heard of shows like Flip this or Sell that house.  Many of them are broadcast on A&E. One of these gems was a show called Flipping Vegas.

The show starred real estate investor Scott Yancey and his interior designer wife, Amie Yancey. What made this show stand out was the outrageous personality of its star, Scott Yancey. He could regularly be seen losing his mind over the tiniest of overages to his immensely short time table he gave to flip any house. It made for great television. I felt it was the funniest of all the house flipping shows out there.

Scott would regularly drive around in his Porsche (he loves cars) and go from house to house that he had invested in to inspect properties. His wife, Amie, could usually be found at places like Walker Zanger to purchase materials for all of the homes they were flipping. The couple were constantly bickering about house design, location, and finances. They were a riot.

What I remember most is that Scott was always very concerned about the budget as where Aime was not. She believed that a well-designed home sold itself. However, Scott did not always agree. He would regularly have a fit if she spent extra money or over-improved a house. It was hilarious.

“When you have a foreclosure sign on the house, it’s saying, ‘Vandals, homeless: Welcome. Please strip it,’ ” Scott told The Las Vegas Review-Journal of the properties he purchases. “We’re in a race to get it done and get it sold.”

So, without further ado, I give you what it’s like to flip Vegas.

WHAT IS FLIPPING VEGAS?

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“The houses that are the worst to buy are the ones we save for TV because we know there’s a great storyline with it.” – Scott Yancey

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Flipping Vegas was an American reality television series that aired in the United States on the A&E network for 5 seasons from June 18, 2011 – September 27, 2014. Featuring the husband and wife team, Scott and Aime Yancey. The couple would fix and flip homes in Las Vegas, Nevada. It aired on Saturdays. And ran for 41 episodes.

Meet the real estate players

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Scott and Aime

Vegas was hit hard by the housing crash of 2007-2009. Where most saw disaster, Scott saw opportunity. He would buy low-priced and dilapidated homes in Vegas, fix and flip them quick for a profit.

Setting a quick timetable of about 4 weeks and even shorter budgets of approximately $10,000. A quick fix schedule and low budget is called flipping. Spend less money equals more or maximum profit. His opposite is Aime, who buys high-end finishes that are not in the budget, without telling Scott. Let the fights over the checkbook begin.

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Here is some of the banter on this show.

Real estate agent: Can you all this done in a week? It’s a lot to do?

Scott: I turn and burn these suckers!

Aime: Scott, you’re so cheap.

Scott: Once again you are unconcerned with deadlines and bottom lines.

Aime: Give the house a great design.

Scott: This house is an ugly girl. Put lipstick on her, we’re not giving it plastic surgery.

That’s Scott, always keeping it classy. He works hard and lives his life fast. He likes quick wins and flips. I’ll give him this, at least he always kept it real.

In an interview with the Vegas Sun, Aime said, “I mean, I feel like I’m giving birth to each of them. I know Scott has timelines to turn them around fast, and we butt heads. He sees the bottom line, and I fall in love with the transformation. I can’t stop myself; I really need rehab for designers.”

 They generally work with the same contractors and real estate agents to sell their houses. In addition, will also have multiple trades working on one house at the same time to keep up with Scott’s insane open house schedule (think buying a home, renovating it, and putting it on the market in 7 days). And yes, there was an episode that he tried to do this.

The show got is start from a conversation Scott had with some show business friends where he recounted how he had to pull out his Glock (he’s licensed to carry) on some homeless people that came at him with needles in a boarded up house.  They recorded some footage of him (Scott paid for their expenses) at work and it got into the hands of someone at Lionsgate. That is how his reality show career got started.

Finance Lesson 101: You have to spend money to make money.

ALWAYS EXPAND

Expand. Never contract. – Grant Cardone

One of the best times to start a business is during a downturn. Scott is a businessman who owns a real estate brokerage called Goliath Company. He invests sells, and flips houses. In addition, Scott also was an executive producer of the show and an author. Reality television star is also one of his many titles.

When asked what it was like doing the show Scott stated, “It’s reality TV for a reason, but try working with your wife for 12-14 hours a day. [The producers] know our fans. They love it when I break shit, and that’s my favorite part. If I could take a bulldozer and knock out a shed, that’s great. Take a chainsaw to a wall, that’s great. Demolition is No. 1; drama is No. 2. And then education.”

The best episode I saw and my favorite was the Season 2 Episode 10 show entitled, “Yancey’s Eleven” which aired on February 16, 2013. Scott purchases 11 unfinished villas at Lake Las Vegas for a total of $380,000 and takes on the gargantuan task of getting them all fixed up at the same time.

A&E episode description(www.aetv.com): Scott takes on the biggest flip of his life having purchased 11 unfinished villas in upscale Lake Las Vegas with hopes of flipping all 11 in less than 45 days! It’s a risky gamble that could have a huge payoff…if Scott can manage to bulldoze through some unexpected and high-priced construction roadblocks.

Show me the money honey.

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The couple then began doing seminars. A no-strings attached sort of deal. It started out for free with a preview, but then morphs into a sales pitch. Over three-hours attendees are enticed to pay a $2,000 fee for a second, more intensive three-day seminar. Those who paid and made the investment in the three-day event received yet another pitch to invest in the next level that costs a whopping $30,000.

I, personally, can confirm the first part. I was invited to a Yancey seminar. I went and it was basically someone coaxing and goading you to spend money (not the Yancey’s as they were not there). Basically, it was a high-pressure sales pitch. The free part was just to get butts in the seats. The free meal was a cold sandwich, chips, and a stale cookie. Although, it sounded good, and everyone acted professional. I refused to spend money going to yet-another seminar. After that experience, I swore off all seminars for good.

They said most people did not complete the problem because there was work involved. So, they quit. Customers cry foul. That they were not properly trained. Scam???

Finance Lesson 102: If you are going to expand and ask people for money, then you better bring you’re A-game and deliver.  Better to write a book and sell it for a reasonable price, that provide the details of how you became successful then give people false hope and empty promises. A book is at least tangible.

A GOLIATH OF A TASK

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“The main thing is that in TV land, they speed everything up. They [the viewers] think, ‘Oh, wow, it’s a breeze. They come in, and it’s done.’ It takes a long time to put them together, to pick out the fit and finish and work on the quality. They only see a glimpse of it.” – Amie Yancey

Scott started in real estate at a young age. He got advice from a friend to invest his $30,000 settlement from a car crash into real estate as his family was doing. Scott took the advice.

Forgoing finishing college he still found a way to make a million dollars. Even though he almost quit real estate after the downturn, overhearing a conversation between patrons made him change his mind. When he heard how little people were paying for properties in Las Vegas only to start renting them out to tenants, Scott saw a golden opportunity to profit. Why not buy at the bottom?

“At the next table, the discussion revolved around the Las Vegas real estate market and the fact that there were homes available to buy for as little as $36,000 that would rent out for $900/month. Just hearing those two numbers put Scott’s real estate brain into gear. Two things came to mind immediately, ‘You make your money on the buy in Real Estate’ and ‘fortunes are made in bad economies.'” – Scott Yancey

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His task was to buy real estate at the bottom. Things have to hit rock bottom become they come back up. You can capitalize on that. It was risky and things were rough. Like me, quotes were in Scott’s mind: “Nothing great is easy” and “Debt equals drive.” Those helped him. He had this epiphany and ran with it.

Similar to the money epiphany I had in 2017. Once I figured out a way to save more, I began to do so massively. Start where I was at and work my way up. I started by saving $50 a month and then slowing increased my savings every day or month. Now, I save over $13,000 a year and increase that number every year.

Finance Lesson 103: Best time to start a business is in an economic downturn as fortunes are made in bad economies. For instance, when the stock market crashes, that is the time to buy.

COLLEGE DROPOUT TURNED MULTI-MILLIONAIRE REAL ESTATE INVESTOR

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“I’m not a college graduate.” Scott told Vegas Seven. “I went to probably five colleges, and I dropped out of them all. I have ADD. I didn’t come from money. But you don’t need money to be a real estate investor, and that’s what I teach people. I did my first land deal on my own without any of my own money, and I netted $2.3 million. I can relate to most of the people who write to me and say, ‘I’d love to do what you’re doing. I don’t like my job, but I don’t have any money.’ Great, you don’t have to. You’re right where I started.”

Scott was hired as a real estate runner for a real estate attorney named Walther (Walt) J. Plumb III. His salary at that time was $5/hour. Walt ultimately became Scott’s mentor. He also convinced Scott to get his real estate license as his last 3 runners had all become millionaires. He ended taking his advice and making so much money in real estate, that he left college. He was making hundreds of thousands of dollars, which is a lot of money for a guy in his 20s.

He was making so much money for Walt that he decided to strike out on his own.

The $2.3-million-dollar deal allowed him to pay off all his credit cards and buy the care of his dreams, the Porsche. And put a million in the bank. He used his big payday to pay off debt. This is similar to what John Legend did.

See my post Money advice I got from John Legend

You can also regularly hear Scott complain about amateurs on his show.

In an interview with the Vegas Sun, Scott said, “but I think there are a lot of amateur-type flippers who have gotten in in the last little while, and they have short fuses because they’ve borrowed money to their properties. Scott usually pays all cash.

This is what Warren Buffet says about borrowing: “I’ve seen more people fail because of liquor and leverage – leverage being borrowed money.”

This is what I said about borrowing.

See my post Don’t take money too personal

He says, “if you don’t know what you’re doing, leave it to the professionals.”  He stills relies on him and asks his mentor for advice. Looking up the couple net worth online yields results of $5 million each.

Finance Lesson 104: You can be successful without college. However, you need to decide early and when you are young what vocation you are going to do to try and make a living.  

THINGS WILL AND ALWAYS DO CHANGE SO PREPARE

“Flipping is great at first to generate capital, but as an investor, the goal is to take your capital and invest it in rental properties. The rental properties pay you every month. Flipping, you make one payday; you’ll make $100,000 on a good flip. [Investing] that in a rental property [can} make you $5,000 a month. … It’s a lot less work to collect a rent check than to renovate a house.” – Scott Yancey

At one point, in an interview with Vegas Seven, Scott thought that the real estate market would change as it always did. In addition, that there is a false send of high-fiving.

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Most purchases are all cash deals being done by investors. Lots of flippers have left and are out of the flipping market. People are buying and holding, which should be the real estate investor’s endgame. As far as renters for his homes go, he wants good tenants that resign every year and he only takes cash as payment. He also buys near hospitals so many of his renters are ER doctors and nurses. Basically, those with steady reliable incomes and paychecks.

I hear that.

I also read a real estate investing book that said a great place to buy was near college campuses. Get those college rentals going. Not bad advice. Pretty similar to what Scott has done.  

I recently read that the government shutdown has closed up shop 4 times within the last 10 years. That is a huge problem for RE owners. Especially, if this trend keeps up and considering that furloughed contractors don’t get back pay when the government reopens.  

See my post America is the land of loans

Not surprising. A home is only an asset if it can or does feed you. You can only get access to the equity when it’s sold. The only other way to make money is to rent it out. Either by the unit, home, or room. If you want to start a profitable real estate business and become a landlord, then you better have the funds to handle downturns, bad tenants, vacancies, and repairs.

Finance Lesson 105: All businesses need capital.

You can take that piece of advice all the way to the bank.  

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Forget casinos, bet on yourself

“There is a gigantic difference between earning a great deal of money and being rich.” —Marlene Dietrich

You bet there is. I am a firm believer in being rich in assets. Those are the things that will help you build wealth. They attract money to you.

I once read a wealthy gentleman online state he wants to be cash poor and asset rich.

Basically, he is looking to have more assets than a fat paycheck. He knows money can slip through your fingers. Assets do not easily slip away.

The bigger the paycheck means the higher the taxes you pay Uncle Sam. In contrast, assets usually go up in value and earn interest over time. Capital gains tax is lower than income taxes.

So, if you want to bet the farm, then put it all on staying in the black and not the red.

CASINOS ARE NOT WHERE THE WEALTHY ARE

I know you see all the television shows and advertisements telling you to go to Vegas. However, that is just a way to get you there to spend money. Most wealthy folks are not rolling the dice with their finances.

Casinos are designed to separate you from your money. Just like subscriptions. Read my posts Do not cash out your retirement accounts and  America is the land of subscriptions.

I have read enough blogs and books to know that you must hang around like-minded people.

Motivational speaker Jim Rohn said, “You’re the average of the five people spend the most time with.” And so is your net worth.

We are influenced by those we associate with. These relationships over time can have a profound effect on our lives.

Therefore, you must choose wisely when it comes to friends, business partners, and spouses.

The wealthy are about building assets. Therefore, you are not likely to see them at the casino at four o’clock on a Monday afternoon. They are out volunteering, networking, and closing business deals.

HOW DO CASINOS MAKE MONEY

A Canadian study stated that 75% of customers provide only 4% of casino revenues. It’s the habitual gambler that keeps the casino in business.

If you ever saw Mark Wahlberg in The Gambler, then you know who I’m talking about.

Computer gaming and slot machines are all the rage when it comes to gambling.

Most players lose more than they win. I don’t like those odds. Therefore, I do not gamble.

That means people with gambling addictions are the most vulnerable. Or you can become addicted after getting a taste of winning like in the film 21.

Slot machines are, like credit, addictive. Casinos actually can make you poorer. This exacerbates inequality.

CASINOS WILL HELP THE ECONOMY RIGHT?

Not so fast. Let’s take a look at Atlantic City.

Back in 1977, casino advocates made promises that casinos would help give the economy a boost by providing jobs. Don’t get me wrong, they did provide jobs. However, the surrounding local business owners did not get the foot traffic coming into the casinos.

The money that casinos make, stays with them.

Many local businesses had to close up shop. The retail economy collapsed all around Atlantic Avenue in New Jersey. Several casinos have actually shut down since 2014. That means jobs were lost not gained.

HOW TO BET ON YOURSELF

Devote all your time, money, and resources into yourself.

Use your hard earned money to invest in your education, training, and business.

When I was watching David Tutera plan those weddings on television, I learned he wasn’t doing this for, in the illustrious words of Sia, cheap thrills. He did it for a living. And earned good enough money to have a nice home, wardrobe, and chauffeur.

David started party planning and entertaining over 20 years ago. He just invested his time and money into himself. Eventually, he found what he was good at and then he just stuck with it.

There are countless tales of people out there that have found a skill they are good at, practiced and developed it, then went out and started earning a living at it.

Read up on some biographies. See for yourself. I recommend reading anyone you have an interest in or trailblazers such as Gloria Steinem, Arnold Schwarzenegger, Franklin Roosevelt, Charlie Chaplin, Oprah Winfrey, Winston Churchill, or Nelson Mandela.

WHAT CAN YOU DO NOW?

First, I feel people need to assess their situation. For example, when I was growing up I noticed that a lot of kids were not very into studying and really focused on their academics. However, many wealthy people I saw on television always advocated for education.

I figured, why not listen to other successful people?

I started studying and reading more. Especially, thanks to shows like Reading Rainbow hosted by Star Trek’s Next Generation alum LaVar Burton. I would go to the Book Mobile and get tons of books.

Much of my focus was less on having fun and more on learning. Saturday mornings were spent reading on my parent’s couch. Sunday afternoons were spent reading the comics and learning new things and vocabulary words.

I invested lots of time and money into my education and health.

And all of this paid off in spades.

I have four retirement accounts, a home, a car (no monthly payment), and save and invest upwards of 50% of my income.

It took me over a decade to build those things. But it all started with getting an education.

Sure, college helped, but it was sheer grit, discipline and determination that got me where I am today.

THE FUTURE MR. OR MRS. FI

If you want to have a chance at financial independence, I suggest you do the following:

  • Focus on learning more about money and finance
  • Stay away from debt
  • Get a good education (the best you can afford)
  • Pay for cars and appliances in cash
  • Opt for a 15-year mortgage
  • Stay away from vices (narcotics, alcohol, gambling, shopping)
  • Hang around like-minded people
  • Save 20% or more of your income
  • Invest 15% or more of your income

If you can do at least two of the items listed here, you have got a shot at making it into the top 10% of households and becoming financially independent.

Outrageous Loan Terms for Porsche that even the Rich can’t Justify

Want to finance an exotic car? No sweat. It will only cost you $157,944.33.

That amount is based on a Porsche that costs $144,750 with loan terms of 144 months, with a 3.3% interest rate, and $14,475 down payment.

Yes, you read that right. Financing for 144 months is the equivalent of 12 years! Just ridiculous.

Especially, considering that a car depreciates in value the minute you take it off the lot.

For example, a $100k BMW 6 Series after five years will likely only be worth $40,000 in resale value. Therefore, over that time period you have paid over $70k. You would still owe approximately the same amount as the current resale value and it would be worth even less in a few more years.

What made me look into this was listening to talk on a radio show I heard about being able to finance a $100k Porsche over 8 years. I was like that can’t be real. Oh, but it is. The people on the radio said that people were doing it and taking out these loans. I was like that’s insane. You can buy houses in different countries all over the world or in certain parts of the United States for that.

If you are so set on having an exotic vehicle, then I think the best course of action is paying cash in the form of a cashier’s check. If you have to finance a $100k car, then that sounds like a red flag that you can’t afford it. Instead of spending $100k on a car, why not invest it? Over a period of 12 years with a 7% ROI you could have $272,641 in your 401(k). Even without investing another dime, you could be a millionaire in about 20 years. Is that car worth a million dollars? I don’t think so.

Who are these people that want to finance a $100k car? The only one I have ever seen was on a Canadian television show called Til Debt Do Us Part hosted by finance writer Gail Vaz-Oxlade. In one episode, a married couple had accumulated a significant amount of debt, but what made this episode stand out was the fact that the wife wanted a very fancy car and was thinking of financing over $100k to get it. Mind you, the couple had kids and debt, so where was this money coming from?

Here is a sample of how the show went on to explain to viewers how people are spending and where the money comes from: credit. If you want to order Gail Vaz-Oxlade or other financial books, then look to the side or go to the top of my blog page and click the Amazon banner link.

Who are these companies that are likely to finance these amounts? BMW Financial, Audi Financial, Porsche Financial, and the like. See the screen shot.

And not only do these companies allow you to finance, but expect a down payment on cars with six-figure price tags.

I have had my car for more than a decade. Actually, it has been 15 years. My car has been very reliable. Once I paid it off I decided I did not want another car note.  That was almost 10 years ago. Here is a snapshot below of my last payment. It may become my screensaver.

I have been able to do so much without having that payment hanging over my head. I decided to start paying off my credit card debt, invest more, get Lasik, join a gym, and get another degree. Basically, I invested in myself. I do not regret not purchasing a new car for one second.

Here is my take on it. Why stretch yourself financially, for a car you desire? Ask yourself if you would still be willing to do that, if the most popular car in the world among the money elite was a Honda? Financially savvy folks know that a fancy set of wheels is pricey in more ways than one.

I was told that a rapper was discussing online about owning a Bugatti or some other luxury vehicle that has three radiators. If one goes down, it costs $90k to replace. Gulp! That’s a hard pill or repair bill to swallow.

I heard an NBA player say that he knew people that would buy Bentley’s, but then would stop driving them because they were not meant for everyday driving. The wear and tear was ridiculous.  Owners were shelling out tens of thousands of dollars on maintenance. Don’t believe me. I read an article by Forbes about unreliable luxury cars.  Apparently, I am not the only one who has noticed that every luxury car that glitters isn’t gold, but merely sold to those willing to fork over their hard earned cash.

That means you basically are driving a house on wheels for the amount you paid. Then after all that, still have to worry about thousands of dollars in repairs. And since this isn’t your run of the mill car, you have to go to specific repair shops. Usually, this means repeated trips to the dealership. Who has time for that?

Luxury cars seem not only to come with a high price tag, but also lots of headaches. I say this: if you can afford the monthly payments, maintenance, and can hire a mechanic or chauffeur to repair or take your car in for service at a moment’s notice, then you can get the car. If not, you’re better off sticking to something you can take to Jiffy Lube.